Edit: I’ll note that almost every reply here is just insulting me.
Edit2: Still not a single serious answer.
Edit3: Near as I can tell everyone calling me names, insulting me, avoiding the question, and voting me down are very upset that I’ve exposed the fact that they would, in fact, dial 911 in such a circumstance. And knowing that makes them deeply uncomfortable. And being unable to come to grips with that feeling they just lash out like children instead.
Jokes aside, this is a disgusting play at people’s emotions
Are you for real? This happens and all the ACAB people in here have zero answers for who they would call in this situation other than “ha ha ha not the cops they just do nothing”. Y’all aren’t serious and don’t deserve to be treated seriously.
It’s all they’re for. Which is why they sit around uselessly while shooters murder children. Look at the surnames of most of the victims in Uvalde to see why the pigs were outside doing fucking nothing.
What do you do if you’re being tortured to death? Nothing, you can’t, of course lol. Minimizing it with peer reviewed policy is our only tool. Voting for the party doing that is our only individual lever.
You can say you don’t like the question but there are hundreds of school shootings a year. It’s not a hypothetical. What is the ACAB crowd’s answer for what people should do in these cases? Just… wait?
Your question doesn’t make any sense. Your original question was in response to someone saying they don’t call the cops in their house.
I took it to be a “In this house we obey the laws of physics” type expression. If not then I’m yet to be corrected by the original commenter.
That may be why you’re not getting “serious” answers, because you didn’t ask a serious question, even if you thought you did.
I mean… I did. Just none of them would actually say it or even provide an alternative. I’d happily accept an alternative if they could provide one. They love to say “don’t call the cops” and it’s utter bullshit. They apparently don’t like having their bullshit exposed either.
Given the ridiculous and insulting responses before this it’s remarkable that you’ve somehow come up with the absolute stupidest response of the thread. Congrats I guess?
Yet here you are with three edits whining about the response to your comment. And remember, you brought this upon yourself. I made one flippant comment about cops and you couldn’t stand it. How much of your life have you wasted today on this argument?
911, and ideally they would alert a tactical response team with a negotiator to get on a helicopter while they gather details and form a plan in transit that would reflect their training for these situations. Have four of these teams in each state. police cordon off the area and monitor the situation to keep the team updated while they are in transit and to watch the entrances and exits while the staff that were already in the building, including resource officers, would be doing what they could to get people away or get them to the safest place they can. Police force as an intervention would be a last resort scenario, as escalation in these situations will only guarantee more dead. The police have no obligation to protect or serve under the current laws, they are not required to do fuck all, they should not be the people you expect to save or help you, they only exist at this point to punish you and bind you.
Congrats! You win a prize for offering the first actual answer to the question without simply attacking me for my perceived biases. 🏆
In most mass shootings I doubt negotiation is going to get very far - and the delay may cause more deaths. Many times the perpetrator simply commits suicide. These are folks who have hit ‘fuck it’ and are looking to end it all and cause a lot of damage on the way out. Often by the time police are even able to respond they’ve done most of the damage they will do already.
You’re right, there is no perfect answer so we should just do nothing and allow the cops to do whatever the fuck they want and give them immunity for everything. If we can’t have it absolutely perfect every time then we should just let things go to their worst possible situation, right? Otherwise we’d have to accept that the system isn’t perfect.
Go fuck yourself you stagnant kowtowing twat.
Edit: Yes, SWAT is a tactical response team trained for these specific situations. Way to point out that we actually already have these units ready to be used, you god damned idiot.
Your trophy is taken back. Sorry - I thought you were serious.
You’re right, there is no perfect answer so we should just do nothing and allow the cops to do whatever the fuck they want and give them immunity for everything.
Where did you get this from? I genuinely don’t understand the childish level of anger I’m getting for asking a legitimate question. When people say “never call the cops” they neglect to say what one should do instead. Just hide in a corner and wait for inevitable death?
Go fuck yourself you stagnant kowtowing twat.
Kowtowing to WHO??? Are you people crazy or something?
I’m gonna single you out since you gave the most coherent response at some point and hope you can talk like an adult for a moment (an assumption I’m making since you’re probably like 13).
As always, ACAB.
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So who do you call when a shooter is in a school?
Edit: I’ll note that almost every reply here is just insulting me.
Edit2: Still not a single serious answer.
Edit3: Near as I can tell everyone calling me names, insulting me, avoiding the question, and voting me down are very upset that I’ve exposed the fact that they would, in fact, dial 911 in such a circumstance. And knowing that makes them deeply uncomfortable. And being unable to come to grips with that feeling they just lash out like children instead.
Seriously? Look up Uvalde and see what they (didn’t) do
Or Parkland.
Why call the cops? They might keep you out when you could be entering to save your kid?
Why would you invite more shooters to kill innocent people?
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Are you for real? This happens and all the ACAB people in here have zero answers for who they would call in this situation other than “ha ha ha not the cops they just do nothing”. Y’all aren’t serious and don’t deserve to be treated seriously.
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Cops exist to murder unarmed minorities.
It’s all they’re for. Which is why they sit around uselessly while shooters murder children. Look at the surnames of most of the victims in Uvalde to see why the pigs were outside doing fucking nothing.
They exist to protect the capital of the wealthy. Murdering minorities without being held accountable is just one of the perks borne from that.
That’s just how we do lynchings now
What do you do if you’re being tortured to death? Nothing, you can’t, of course lol. Minimizing it with peer reviewed policy is our only tool. Voting for the party doing that is our only individual lever.
lol I already have you tagged as bootlicker. Probably just block you at this point.
How do you tag someone
just block him. You’re not going to chnge his mind, no need to cause a scene here.
On Connect for Android, it’s under the comment’s three-dot menu. It’s called “add user note”.
I got you. I tag anyone who blindly calls me a “bootlicker”.
Aaaaand blocked.
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Still no answer…
The cops seem to be doing such a bang up job in preventing it, we should probably just apply more police
Still no answer.
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I said we should use policing, I guess sops aren’t a valid answer then.
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You can say you don’t like the question but there are hundreds of school shootings a year. It’s not a hypothetical. What is the ACAB crowd’s answer for what people should do in these cases? Just… wait?
Why would you phrase it like that? Surely you know about the cops waiting in Uvalde.
Also - you do know that despite the aweful response the cops did actually eventually kill the shooter right?
So… Don’t call the cops gets you… What exactly? Basically the same thing but the shooter is allowed to just continue without any resistance?
I’m being serious even though I know you aren’t.
Your question doesn’t make any sense. Your original question was in response to someone saying they don’t call the cops in their house.
So to the question of what they do when there’s violence at a school, the obvious answer is: they call the cops.
You reiterated your question asking what the “ACAB crowd” would do. Again the answer is obvious: they call the bastards.
That may be why you’re not getting “serious” answers, because you didn’t ask a serious question, even if you thought you did.
I took it to be a “In this house we obey the laws of physics” type expression. If not then I’m yet to be corrected by the original commenter.
I mean… I did. Just none of them would actually say it or even provide an alternative. I’d happily accept an alternative if they could provide one. They love to say “don’t call the cops” and it’s utter bullshit. They apparently don’t like having their bullshit exposed either.
Still. No. Answer.
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Wasn’t there that story about your police literally waiting outside the school?
Let’s be honest, your police system is fucked.
You need a proffessionally trained force like us over in europe.
They didn’t just wait outside the school. They also prevented others from helping!
Also, I remember one incident where they took credit when someone else did step in.
And when a mom DID run inside and rescue her daughter, the local police harassed her for months and threatened to charge her with crimes.
… That is, until there was social media outage about her charges.
ACAB includes European cops. Your shit stinks too.
Still no answer…
Too bad. It should be all of them.
Still no answer…
You are not owed participation on your terms.
Fair - but you still have no answer.
My answer is that pigs are worthless at anything but murdering minorities and that’s why you love them.
Still attacking me, and no answer.
No, they’re not. We all know you’re getting the reaction you wanted and expected. Stop playing the victim.
Still no answer…
You’re a fucking moron
Still no answer.
We all know you never wanted one.
I did, actually. I’ve responded to the one person who actually replied without calling me an idiot. What the fuck do you think I want? Why u so mad?
I’d call the shooter, as they’re statistically more likely to stop themselves than the police
Given the ridiculous and insulting responses before this it’s remarkable that you’ve somehow come up with the absolute stupidest response of the thread. Congrats I guess?
You get down on your knees and pray really hard.
I have literally never seen this many downvotes on a comment in my entire time on the fediverse. And your response is to go full principal skinner.
There is one common denominator here my dude. You need to think about that.
I’m at a point in my life where I don’t justify my opinion based on ideologues on lemmy. Thanks for the concern though.
Yet here you are with three edits whining about the response to your comment. And remember, you brought this upon yourself. I made one flippant comment about cops and you couldn’t stand it. How much of your life have you wasted today on this argument?
Ghostbusters!
Myself
911, and ideally they would alert a tactical response team with a negotiator to get on a helicopter while they gather details and form a plan in transit that would reflect their training for these situations. Have four of these teams in each state. police cordon off the area and monitor the situation to keep the team updated while they are in transit and to watch the entrances and exits while the staff that were already in the building, including resource officers, would be doing what they could to get people away or get them to the safest place they can. Police force as an intervention would be a last resort scenario, as escalation in these situations will only guarantee more dead. The police have no obligation to protect or serve under the current laws, they are not required to do fuck all, they should not be the people you expect to save or help you, they only exist at this point to punish you and bind you.
Congrats! You win a prize for offering the first actual answer to the question without simply attacking me for my perceived biases. 🏆
In most mass shootings I doubt negotiation is going to get very far - and the delay may cause more deaths. Many times the perpetrator simply commits suicide. These are folks who have hit ‘fuck it’ and are looking to end it all and cause a lot of damage on the way out. Often by the time police are even able to respond they’ve done most of the damage they will do already.
The rest sounds an awful lot like SWAT.
You’re right, there is no perfect answer so we should just do nothing and allow the cops to do whatever the fuck they want and give them immunity for everything. If we can’t have it absolutely perfect every time then we should just let things go to their worst possible situation, right? Otherwise we’d have to accept that the system isn’t perfect.
Go fuck yourself you stagnant kowtowing twat.
Edit: Yes, SWAT is a tactical response team trained for these specific situations. Way to point out that we actually already have these units ready to be used, you god damned idiot.
Your trophy is taken back. Sorry - I thought you were serious.
Where did you get this from? I genuinely don’t understand the childish level of anger I’m getting for asking a legitimate question. When people say “never call the cops” they neglect to say what one should do instead. Just hide in a corner and wait for inevitable death?
Kowtowing to WHO??? Are you people crazy or something?
Fuck you.
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I’m gonna single you out since you gave the most coherent response at some point and hope you can talk like an adult for a moment (an assumption I’m making since you’re probably like 13).
Why are you so mad at me?
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