So to use violence then? Because the thing with fascism is that there are exactly 0 instances of fascist regimes existing peacefully. Not a single one. Fascism requires violence to work. It unites people in hatred of minority groups. The reason Putin is still waging war today despite having lost several hundred thousand troops, most of Russia’s armoured vehicles, a third of their strategic bomber fleet, half the black sea navy, and almost all international trade is because if he stops then his loyal followers will no longer fall in line. He needs to frame NATO as being the reason people’s lives are shit. Hitler needed to vilify the Jews because without a scapegoat he wouldn’t be able to get people to rally behind him. Pol pot and Stalin used academics as their scapegoats. But the common thread here is that fascism requires the persecution of one or more minority groups to survive. So yeah violence is the only option when dealing with fascists the only real choice is whether it’s done to the fascists or someone who hasn’t done anything wrong and just wants to live their life in peace.

If you were in charge of Britain in the second world war, how would you have handled the rise of nazi Germany?

I’m not playing chess anymore, it’s pointless.

This is lemmy. Everyone has a favourite rock.

Fascism is an ideology based on the oppression of other people. The whole ideology is based around not coexisting with other people. And it’s not just trans people fascists have a problem with. It’s literally anyone who isn’t straight, white and also a fascist.

The only way to coexist with fascists is to pretend to be one at which point, what you’re doing is worse than violence you’re pretending there isn’t a problem and allowing them to hurt other people. Fascists choose violence as their plan A. If you allow them to spew their hate you might as well lynch an immigrant yourself.

A trans person is a trans person does not have a choice about their identity. Being a nazi is a choice you make because you want to hate people. A nazi merely needs to decide not to be a cunt and the problem resolves itself. The only way a trans person can make peace with a nazi is by hiding who they are and living a lie. It’s not the same. And if you think it is then either A: you’re delusional or B: you know I’m right but you’re also a nazi.

To put it a different way, should black people go around in white face to make the kkk happy?

So if you were walking through the streets of Mariupol and saw a russian soldier violently raping a child (I use this example because it’s not uncommon) you’d, what, ask them nicely to stop, let them get on with it?

You have two opposing groups, let’s call them a and B. Group a says “we dont think group b has a right to exist and we are prepared to get violent” and group b says “we will never use violence”. How long do you expect group b to last?

Fascists are mercifully not common where I live, but if I hear one mouthing off they’re going to get a savage beating.

That’s a lovely sentiment, but in reality some people just need to be beaten violently. All you’re doing is putting that responsibility on someone else.

Totally depends on who you’re hurting.

Sponges and mushrooms don’t tend to ponder such questions.

I use a case because I need somewhere to keep my cards.

True

It depends where you are. London, New York, LA yeah it’s pretty much made of coke. Other places might be full of pill heads or stoners. Santa Cruz springs to mind. I swear every man woman and child in that town is baked off their tits.

No they just aren’t delusional.

Ain’t that the truth!

In fairness some of the traditional methods are pretty inhumane. In the Faroes for example they herd them onto the beach which is not great, whereas in Norway they shoot it in the head with an exploding harpoon which is much quicker.

Humans have tried reproducing asexually. It’s called wanking. It doesn’t work.