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Cake day: June 17th, 2023
  • ikt@aussie.zone
    toFediverse@lemmy.world•We have to solve the money problem!English
    11·
    4 days ago

    i was thinking you could do ads for people not signed in, then no ads for people logged in

    then for people logged in/signed up you could do discord style nitro benefits, fancy name tag, just extra stuff that supporters can get to show their support for the place

    but in isolation no good because what’s to stop another instance just giving it away all for free? it’s like the place is self undermining, it’s the most cut throat environment to be in while being worse to work for than any it slave pen, at least at the end of the work week you get paid, here you’d be expected to work for free :\

  • ikt@aussie.zone
    toFediverse@lemmy.world•We have to solve the money problem!English
    22·
    5 days ago

    then this isn’t a problem for the broader fediverse community to solve

    This is the natural end result of every volunteer run instance, you don’t find it odd that over the last 40 years of the internet not one fediverse like server or community has survived or even been mildly popular?

    I’ll repost this because for some reason the other post got deleted, it was regarding lemm.ee shutting down, they were concerned that one of the largest Lemmy instances is shutting down and the future of Lemmy:

    You’re 100% right to be concerned and to be honest I have doubts lemmy will ever crack more than a few million users, the same thing happened with Mastodon, something that relies so heavily on volunteers running the infra almost inevitably results in burnout because the fediverse works on a disincentive basis:

    Basically the more popular a server is, the more funding it requires, the more admins it requires, the more work it requires, and all of this is on a slim margins or more likely requiring on people to donate time/money/effort ‘for free’ is a huge ask.

    The supply of people sitting around doing nothing all day who care enough to dedicate their time/effort/money to running a social network… for free… is a very small group, almost as small as the amount of people who are willing to donate every month to a social network.

    You can find mods of communities are usually fans of the communities they mod, it’s a topic they enjoy and so the incentive for them to invest their time is to keep their community clean and great. But running a social network which has hard costs not just time is a whole other thing

    This is opposed to a regular website or social media network, where as it gets bigger, it makes more money through ads/subscriptions, the incentive is to get bigger to make more money

    And then they can simply pay for the hard costs like hosting costs/bandwidth and people to do the shit no one wants to.

    The reality for me is that the money has to come from somewhere, you can do a paywall like newspapers do or beg for donations every page visit like the guardian/wikipedia do, or the usual suspect allow advertising, but the money has to come from somewhere.

    Thus the fediverse has a disincentive to growing larger, it is simply easier and more sustainable to remain small

  • ikt@aussie.zone
    tomemes@lemmy.world•Based muslim childEnglish
    10·
    7 days ago

    I don’t have sources but I think it makes sense logically.

    pretty sure most women in a polygamy hate being in them, read more than a few articles about first wives then getting put aside for a younger model but they can’t leave because no money (based islam 🙄)