

You’re just regurgitating the wikipedia list of logical fallacies without knowing what they mean, peak redditor behaviour.
You’re just regurgitating the wikipedia list of logical fallacies without knowing what they mean, peak redditor behaviour.
We have been talking about the present and future threats to the EU
And how exactly do you think those other wars were presented in the past? Do you think Nazi politicians weren’t telling their population that Lebensraum was exclusively for the defense of German culture and rights against the barbaric Russians? Do you not think that the imperialist powers in WW1 fighting each other framed these wars as defensive to their own populations? Essentially: “trust me bro, this next war will be the defensive war bro, I promise bro”
Geopolitical concerns have fundamentally changed
Didn’t I just tell you about the ongoing genocide in Gaza that European states support? How can you claim that things have changed when Europe keeps engaging in genocide?
the EU isn’t perfect, but it is the best the world has to offer
“Maybe Europe has a history of barbaric colonialism and imperialism leaving tens (if not hundreds) of millions of deaths in its colonies in Africa, Asia and South America. Maybe European states have fought endless wars among each other in the name of self defence. Maybe Europe continues to engage in the support of genocidal apartheid states such as Israel, and recently itself participated in the bombing of Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya. Maybe Europe is getting overrun by far-right politicians as we see in Poland, Italy and soon Germany and France. But Europe is the best and most free the world has to offer! Yes, I’m European, but I swear that opinion is completely reasoned, unlike the opinions of people from other countries outside Europe who hold the exact same beliefs towards their own countries! No, I’m not a nationalist/chauvinist”
I’m addressing the military expenditure of the EU, how is showing historical evidence of military expenditure of the EU whataboutism? It’s literally the topic we’re talking about. You just don’t want to think about this topic because you’re obviously right in your point of view, so you’re using a thought-terminating line to shut down your brain
You could say the same thing about people getting hospitalised at prides about Poland
Yes, Poland is a reactionary hellhole too. Being compared to Poland in gay policy is fucking dire.
is moving in the right direction
I hope you’re right
You should also keep in mind that the EU is a supra-national federalist construct
It still supports the ongoing genocide in Gaza and supported the invasion of Iraq, the bombing of Yugoslavia, the destruction of Libya, Afghanistan, colonialism in Africa… Seriously, tell me three military interventions done by European countries in the past century that were arguably moral.
if you spin it hard enough any war is a genocide
Not really. Genocide implies an intent to eliminate a given culture or ethnicity, most wars haven’t had that intention, e.g. most civil wars.
Choosing where to stop providing historical context is a deliberate and political choice. Why stop at 1950 and not at 1948-49 South Korea’s extremely violent repression of South Korean socialists? How about we go five years back to when Korea was colonised by Imperial Japan and liberated by Soviet troops, making locals very prone to being socialist but not being allowed in the south thanks to US support?
Wanna go a bit further back? How about South Korea having grassroots socialist uprisings and murdering tens of thousands of socialists between 1948 and 1950? Look up “Jeju uprising”.
Korea, a predominantly agrarian country with very poor conditions, was ripe for a communist revolution after seeing the success of the People’s Liberation Army in China and the Soviet Union in freeing them from Japanese colonialism.
The article doesn’t source literally any of these claims…
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Pacifism, unfortunately, is dead in this new age of multilaterlism and worldwide resurging authoritarianism.
Great, let’s spend the budget in weapons right before the far right authoritarians reach all governments in Europe! Can’t see that going wrong! After all, Europe has never done anything bad militarily!
Everything you’ve said is true, but keep in mind that Ukraine isn’t exactly an LGBT paradise. Hate crime against gay people isn’t recognised by law, and for the past years most pride parades ended up with people hospitalised as a consequence of far right attackers.
So the source on this is a western state-funded journalism media company using a phone which they claim they got from North Korea somehow?