• throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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    If all natural-born citizens has to go through the naturalization process before getting the right to vote, trump would never have been elected.

    Not just because they don’t know the 100 (I think they changed it to 120 now?) questions, but also because they would not pass the:

    “Have you ever been a member of any totalitarian party?
    Have you ever been a member of a terrorist organization?
    Have you ever advocated the overthrow of any government by force or violence?
    Have you ever persecuted any person because of race, religion, national origin, or political opinion?” Questions

    (Fun fact: They can revoke your citizenship after the fact if they catch you lying, or if you do any “terrorist” activity within 5 years of naturalization. Jan 6 riotor types would never pass this. As a naturalized citizen, I’m kinda dreading this since last November)

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          School starts at home (for many parents, this is an unbelievable idea). I had a classmate who is an anti-vaxxer, even though we did biology together and learned how vaccines worked. My classmate is alright as a person, but I think her environment outside of school made her not one of the sharpest tool in the class and never paid attention to the lessons. My point is that, if the home environment is not conducive to learning, the person is less likely to be intellectually driven. I know there are exceptions and it boils down to “nature versus nurture”, but as mentioned already, an environment that does not foster learning makes the person less likely to pursue knowledge.

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            Why do you think Reaganomics was implemented? If both parents work, they aren’t going to be able to spend as much time teaching their kids to read.

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              Some parents are genuinely lazy. More often than not, a typical phrase some parents would use is “didn’t they teach you that in school?”

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            This is also a big thing. If I may add to it, the environment may also help add maturity needed for certain topics. My HS had a banking and personal finance class. Many kids just didn’t care, others didn’t have any way to visualize it as they didn’t really get an allowance, and those with jobs who would benefit the most were often not taking the class because they needed to work.

            I was lucky to be there. Really that I was able to credit by exam some classes; which gave me space in my junior and senior year to fill.

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    This is pretty much all you need to know about the state of the United States. It’s being run by 10 year old imbeciles.

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      no, its being run by greedy, assholes, who know exactly what they’re doing. The 10 year old imbeciles are their republican voters and the yes-men they hire to do their bidding.

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    To make it worse year by year the republicans continue to defund education, remove sciences, sex education and history from being taught in schools. While trying to force christian religion in public schools.

    What a timeline America is going through.

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    For clarity: this is based on piaac test results. The literacy test results are sorted into 6 categories (1-5 and <1) for comparing the distribution internationally. 54% of Americans score less than 3, compared to top-scoring Japan and top-english-speaking Australia at approximately 35% and 45%. The task description for level 3:

    Adults at Level 3 are able to construct meaning across larger chunks of text or perform multi-step operations in order to identify and formulate responses. They can identify, interpret or evaluate one or more pieces of information, often employing varying levels of inferencing. They can combine various processes (accessing, understanding and evaluating) if required by the task . Adults at this level can compare and evaluate multiple pieces of information from the text(s) based on their relevance or credibility. Texts at this level are often dense or lengthy, including continuous, noncontinuous, mixed. Information may be distributed across multiple pages, sometimes arising from multiple sources that provide discrepant information. Understanding rhetorical structures and text signals becomes more central to successfully completing tasks, especially when dealing with complex digital texts that require navigation. The texts may include specific, possibly unfamiliar vocabulary and argumentative structures. Competing information is often present and sometimes salient, though no more than the target information. Tasks require the respondent to identify, interpret, or evaluate one or more pieces of information, and often require varying levels of inferencing. Tasks at Level 3 also often demand that the respondent disregard irrelevant or inappropriate text content to answer accurately. The most complex tasks at this level include lengthy or complex questions requiring the identification of multiple criteria, without clear guidance regarding what has to be done

    I could not find which source originally cited level 2 as “6th grade” equivalent, though the oecd recommends against drawing that parallel.

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      This reads like a description of the D&D PHB.

      …is that why so many people think they get an extra attack when they do something other than an Attack action? Yes, that includes the Ready action. You get one hit if you ready an attack.

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      Hmmm so back in 6th grade when i would read the questions on the test and fond the answer to ome question in a different question on a different page was that level 3 reading?

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      I’m not disagreeing with you (I don’t know enough about the department’s operations), but I can understand why people are unhappy with the ED (Department of Education). It has existed for almost 40 years, and has spent tens (sometimes hundreds) of billions of dollars annually.

      The result: Well, most Americans’ reading level, as highlighted in this post. Also, a shocking number of people can’t even name a single country in Africa – a big continent with more than 50 countries to choose from. Also, college borrowers in the US owe ~$1.5 trillion to the ED.

      Should the ED be abolished? Honestly, I’m way to ignorant to even make an educated guess. But after so many decades, hundreds of billions of dollars spent, and $trillions of debt owed by students, it doesn’t seem unreasonable to think that something should at least change.

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        What you’re describing isn’t really a failure of the education system. It’s a reflection of the average American mindset. I was born in the US and grew up in the public school system. I loved math and science, and while I struggled with the rules of grammar, I still loved reading. I have always had a love of learning new things.

        But most people aren’t like that. Not just in America, but across the world. A true love of learning is rare, and I think that’s because learning is hard. It requires humility, effort, and the being able to admit that one might be wrong. It means questioning long held beliefs and sometimes changing parts of yourself completely. That’s a deeply uncomfortable prospect and many people avoid it.

        I think most people fall sleep while leaning on the third tier of Maslow’s pyramid (belonging and social identity.) The next level, where self-reflection and self-actualization begins, is hard to climb because it means hanging question marks on their long-held ideas and beliefs. They choose the safety of clinging to comfort and routine.

        The current controversy over dismantling the US Department of Education is a complex issue that can’t be fully unpacked in a short reply on the internet. But in my view, what’s driving the American zeitgeist toward authoritarianism and anti-intellectualism is this resistance to growth and change. Internalizing new ideas means re-evaluating what you’ve always believed. For many, that feels like a threat. And instead of rising to meet the challenge, they’d rather pull everything down to their level, where they feel safe.

        But, at least for me, the climb is worth it. Continuing to learn means accepting discomfort. It means growing past who you were in order to become someone better. It’s how we find purpose, empathy, and a deeper understanding of what it means to be alive.

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    The podcast called Sold a Story talks about how the school systems adopted a curriculum that doesn’t teach kids how to read. They are more like mimicking literacy. It gives appearances they they are reading but they aren’t comprehending.

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    Well, reading and writing is a 6 millenia old technology, thus it’s in dire need of replacement with AI readers /s

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    Yeah, we’ve noticed. Not that Europe is far behind I fear.

    Literacy is definitely declining; people just don’t have the attention spans they used to. Between Twitter, TikTok and other brain rot, reading a book or simply a longer text just isn’t something a lot of people do.

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      I’ve noticed that, when confronted with longer text, many people just use an LLM to summarize it now.

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        Ugh, I’m sure to hate that.

        Google recently put Gemini in gmail, which lets you one-click summarise an e-mail.

        Most e-mails I get and send aren’t nearly long enough for them to need a summary. And if I send a long e-mail, it’s for a good fucking reason: it contains essential information.

        I should probably build in some check - like a really random sentence to confuse an LLM - to make sure the recipient actually reads it.

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    The fact that some replies don’t understand the title of the article and some are trying to explain it is funny af to me, I’m sorry 😂

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      get out into the low income areas. if you spend a lot of time there, you’d probably be surprised to know the reading level is as high as it is.