• Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    20 days ago
    • Teachers are overworked, underpaid, some still using course work that hasn’t been updated in years despite what the field has advanced
    • Students go into college due to the social expectation, some even unsure of what to get into as a career or even a class
    • Exceeding above the course requirements does nothing for your GPA, an A that got a “110%” and an A that got 90% are the same.
    • Students failing or passing still rack up debt for this social expectation
    • Teachers still failing to pay bills for this social need

    Yeah AI is the fault here, its not the system at large been fucked over since Reagan.

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    21 days ago

    NGL, it’s really f*cking depressing when you give students 30m to create something of their own imagination, and they do it in the first minute with chatGPT and spend the other 29m playing games the phone and asking to “go to the bathroom” whenever they notice someone in the hallway.

    The excuses you hear when you do something so oppressive as to request they keep their phones in their own backpacks for the duration of the task.

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      Ngl. I bought a signal jammer for my wife to use in her classroom (after all, it said “for educational purposes only”) and the kids could never figure out why the signal sucked so bad in her classroom during class times. She never got caught using it and never had to worry about them being on their phones.

      If there was an emergency, people would just call the front office and they could always reach her on the land line in the classroom.

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    21 days ago

    That’s going to be great fun when the AI bubble pops and the subscription prices go up exponentially.

    On the other hand, there have been other opinions about education that say it should be about making or researching something. Give a student a goal and let them figure it out using chatbots or whatever.

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      21 days ago

      That sounds like a way to make a generation of students wholly reliant on AI, much to Altman’s delight. People are going to still need to know how to do stuff in the future and not just how to request the answers to things from somewhere else.

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        21 days ago

        (Disclaimer: this is not a fully formed counter-argument to your statement, merely my thought-vomit).

        As a kid growing up in the 90’s you wouldn’t believe the amount of times my parents and teachers vehemently insisted to me that I MUST do dictionary lookup drills because there’s no way I would just always have access to an electronic dictionary in my pocket. I was also told that I absolutely HAD to be fast at paper-based multiplication and long division. It’s not like I would just carry a calculator around with me everywhere I go, that would be insane!

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          21 days ago

          Knowing how to use a physical dictionary or do basic math in your head is absolutely still a good idea, your phone battery can die, your network connection can fail, and doing challenging things with your brain is good for your long term brain health anyway especially while it’s still developing.

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            21 days ago

            Maybe, but are there other things we can focus on? For example, as an ESL teacher, why do my newcomers only get a word to word paper dictionary on end of grade exams? I’m pretty sure the state of North Carolina just hates children? There’s literally no reason for this. Give them a digital dictionary.

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              21 days ago

              Paper is a renewable resource, rare metals used in computers aren’t, and the contents of the dictionary will be the same either way

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                21 days ago

                Yes but the process of obtaining the information is significantly more difficult. We can, you know, reuse the same 20 translation devices for years, and all kids have a laptop… I feel like you’re focused on the wrong thing.

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                  20 days ago

                  No, it’s only more difficult for those without the skills to use the Index or Table of Contents in a book. Which is not really much of a difficult skill to learn. You pretty much need to know about alphabetical order and how one is at the front and the other is at the end of the book.

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                  In what universe is an electronic device being handled by children going to last 20 years? Not ours